Yes. Just a few points. I have to First of all, Mr. President, thank you for your vision. I think thank you for understanding the importance of uh the American uh private sector and industry. I think in the growth of the economy. I want to just build on some of the things that were said by my colleagues. I think we have uh built probably one of the most advanced uh technologies in the world. And part of it is because I think the commitment to innovation that we have in the country, but also the fact that it has been American technology for the world. So I think we have an incredible opportunity when when I think about what uh Michael said about exporting AI. I I had conversation with Secretary Howard now that the trade deals been made is an opportunity to really build on those trade deals and export I think uh America technology. And also as we think about the technology, it's an important vector to drive the reindustrialization I think of the country uh with technology. So we're incredibly excited about that. I think this is a big opportunity. I think it's the next um wave of uh growth that we can build on those trade agreements. And I think it resonates with uh also Arvind said about the importance of the American technology stack. And then I would just going to finish with two points. There are two exciting things happening in the world of technology coming right now. One is as AI become the new form of computing, AI is going not only to the data center, but to everything. To cars, to PCs, and we see now the ability to run models that you could only run AI in the data center, you can run that on a microcomputer, on a computer for Enrique, on a server uh with small server uh on-premise. So I think we're going to see the proliferation of AI. The other one is 6G. Um, we had made commitment working with your administration, working with FCC, we're going to accelerate 6G. We're working to have a launch first in the world in at LA Olympics. And I think that's another opportunity for America to lead uh in the next world as evolution. So thank you. I think thank you for the opportunity, thank you for the partnership, and we're going to be hard at work, I think, driving that agenda.
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So we're into 6G now. I just finished 5G. I was I was a leader on 5G, getting that done. And now they're up to six. Let's do it again. And what does that do, give you a a little bit deeper view into somebody's skin? See how perfect it is. I like the cameras in the old days, they sort of just had a nice feature. Now they cover every little... Let's see you, Michael. Well, you're in good shape, you're not going to... But I tell you, it's so you're the six is coming, huh? It's coming. Does it ever end? And what happens? You'll be into seven, right? Before six gets old, you'll be into seven. Anybody have anything else to say? Anybody?
I think the other thing is, we want to thank you as well for the openness of your organization and the of your team. We always find people that wants to hear what we need and is willing to uh design programs that will support us. So thank you from all of our side.
Well, we're here, and we want you to just dominate the whole world in terms of what you do. It's a very important world, and you're doing that. And we'll make it easy for you, and that means you're going to do it faster, it's more jobs, and a lot of good things happen. Right?
Yes. Mr. President, uh you may not recall, but in your first term, you you actually sponsored the Department of Energy to build the largest systems ever built. And thanks to your sponsorship, the Department of Energy owns the three top supercomputers in the world. And we built them with them. And these are systems that can do quintillion operations per second. And that means we can solve...
I knew, I knew, I loved it. We made that possible. It's worked out very well. Good, solve the problem. So I know we're going to build the next generation again.
Good. Sounds good to me. Any questions, please?
Mr. President! Mr. President, thank you. Can you also explain a little more about this Venezuelan oil tanker and share a little more information?
Well, I'll let the people do it, but you see the result and I guess they probably have released the pictures by now or pretty soon. You'll discuss that with the appropriate people later on, but no, it was seized for very good reason.
Mr. President, a question on Cuba. Sir, there's a new proposal from DHS that would see tourists from a lot of countries have to hand over five years of social media history to to get a tourist visa. Are you concerned at all that if that's implemented, there would be a decline in tourism next year, and what sort of material do you think...
No, we're doing so well, we just want people to come over here and safe. We want safety, we want security, we want to make sure we're not letting the wrong people come into our country. We're getting rid of a lot of bad ones from jails, from from mental institutions, drug dealers. We're getting a lot of a lot of bad people, murderers. 11,888 murderers, half of them, almost exactly half of them committed more than one murder. We're getting rid of them. In some cases, we don't even want to get them out. We put them in jail because we're afraid they're going to come back into our country. We're not going to let them back in. So we've taken a very tough stand and you see where we've been, like Washington DC now, people walk down the streets, they go into restaurants at night. It's beautiful. It's like this beautiful thing to see because until I got here, this was a very, very bad place. We had a terrible thing happen two weeks ago with terrorism with regard to two national guards people that are so phenomenal. One is no longer with us and one, amazingly, we weren't looking with great hope on that, you know that Andrew. And today he got out of bed actually, got stood up, didn't say anything, it's a little early, but the chances of Andrew, other than his mother who said, nope, he's going to be okay. His mother was the most positive person. And could be that she'll be right. It's pretty amazing. Made made progress. It was both of them were so badly hurt we never thought that one could survive, so looks like Andrew's doing pretty well.
Mr. President! Mr. President, the winner of the Nobel Prize dedicated the prize to you, the Nobel Peace Prize. And she left Venezuela in a great race to make it to the ceremony. Um, there is a risk she could be arrested actually. What would happen if she is arrested? What message do you send or would you send to Nicolas Maduro?
Well, arrested by who? The Nobel Prize Committee? That's that's probably the ones that would arrest. No, I don't know anything about it. She was very gracious. She said I should have gotten the Nobel Prize. And I don't, you know, I mean I'm doing this to save lives. I'm not doing it for any other reason. But no, I don't like if she would be arrested, no. I wouldn't be happy with that.
Mr. President! Oil tanker. Senate Republicans currently have a healthcare proposal that would take away let those ACA subsidies expire and then put about $1,000 in people's HSAs. Do you think that is enough money and how do you ensure that people who will see those tax subsidies expire won't see their healthcare costs skyrocket?
Well, the Unaffordable Care Act, which is Obamacare, they call it now the Unaffordable because it's unaffordable. It used to be called the affordable, but it was never affordable. It was always bad. It was basically designed for the benefit of insurance companies. And what we're doing is we want all of the billions and billions of dollars that went to insurance companies to go directly to the people, and they can buy their own healthcare. And people love it. I don't know if the Democrats are going to approve it because they want the insurance companies to make money. It was a scam. Obamacare was a scam. Uh, but we're going to see. I mean we, the Republicans, I can tell you, want the money to go to the people and we're winning that battle. The Democrats having a hard time with it because they're in the pocket of the insurance companies. Yes, please.
Mr. President, you spoke to some European leaders today, I think, sir. My correct. I did. Could you tell us about that and and is there a new revised peace plan for Ukraine that was presented?
The leaders of France, who I spoke to, and Germany, and UK, all very good leaders, very good friends of mine. And we discussed Ukraine in pretty strong words. And we'll see what happens. I mean we're waiting to hear answers before we progress. You know we're we're not spending any money in Ukraine. We're we're selling equip basically missiles and everything else to NATO. And NATO's paying us, and then they distribute it to who they want. I guess they're mostly distributing to Ukraine, but but we're not spending money. But you know we are spending a lot of time and a lot of effort because last month 27,000 soldiers were killed. Both, think of it, 27,000. That's if you take a football game and take half the stadium, that's 27,000. So 27,000 soldiers were killed. Russian and Ukrainian soldiers were killed. And I want to see that stop. We'll find out. Look, there are a lot of things happening right now. A lot of people say it's closer than it's ever been. It's a war that would have never star if I were president, it would have never started. It's a war that should never have started. But we'll we'll have it figured out, I think, within a pretty short.
When you say in very strong terms, sir, could you explain that?
Well, I think we had some little disputes about people. And we're going to see how it turns out. And we said before we go to a meeting, we want to know some things. You know, they would they would like us to go to a meeting over the weekend in Europe, and we'll make a determination depending on what they come back with. We don't want to be wasting time. Sometimes you have to let people fight it out, and sometimes you don't. But the problem with letting people fight it out is you're losing thousands of people a week. It's ridiculous. The whole thing is ridiculous. Two questions. One, the oil tanker. Who owns that oil tanker? You'll get that information later. Okay. And have you spoken to Maduro since your last conversation, or has it only been one conversation? No. No. And when you say that the European leaders want to have a meeting over the weekend, are you talking about with Zelensky or with them? With Zelensky and us. And you said in an interview yesterday that you think it's time for Zelensky to start accepting things. What things are you talking about? Well, I think he has to be realistic. And I do wonder about, you know, how long is it going to be till they have an election? You know, it's a democracy, it's a long time. They haven't had an election in a long time. He's losing a lot of people. And it's possible that the people, you know, if you look at the polls, I will say 82%, there was a poll that came out, 82% of the people are demanding a settlement be made. Ukrainian people. They want to see a settlement be made. I understand that. They're losing thousands and thousands of people a week. They want to see it ended. And I do say, you know, at what point when do they have an election in Ukraine? That's not casting dispersions on anybody, but they do have a massive corruption situation going on there. And they do say, you know, when when are they people are asking this question. When do they have an election? Are they going to have an election? Or are they going to just keep it going like this? So I think it's time to get that war settled. And I think it's a war that can be settled. But it takes two to two to tango.
Mr. President! Mr. President, what more about the new owners of Warner Brothers Discovery potentially make changes at CNN, big changes, and they've spoken to Jared about it. What are you doing with him or what are your thoughts on CNN off hand?
So, what do you want to know? What changes do you want to see at CNN under new ow Well, I'm not involved in that. I will be probably involved, maybe involved in the decision. It depends. You have some good companies bidding on it. I think the people that have run CNN for the last long period of time are a disgrace. I think it's imperative that CNN be sold because you certainly wouldn't want to put people just leave those people with some money, good money, and CNN so that, you know, they can spend even more money spreading poison because it's lies and it's a disgrace. So I wouldn't want to see the same company end up with CNN, the same company with money, because right now they don't have too much money. But they have value, I guess, based on the bids. They've got value. But I think I think CNN should be sold because I think the people that are running CNN right now CNN right now are either corrupt or incompetent.
And would would that be a factor in the decision-making? Because, you know, we've got some...
Well, in my in my mind, but I'm, you know, I can be talked out of that by some very talented people that we have, antitrust people. But I just think that the people that have run CNN into the ground, by the way, nobody watches, very few people watch, I don't think they should be entrusted with running CNN any longer. So I think any deal should it should be guaranteed and certain that CNN is part of it or sold separately. But I don't think the people that are running that company right now and running CNN, which is a very dishonest group of people, I don't think that should be allowed to continue. I think CNN should be sold along with everything else.
Mr. President, you spoke about affordability earlier in your remarks and yesterday in Pennsylvania. How much more can we expect to see you on the road kind of delivering that message, and are you worried at all about the Democrats winning back control of the House or pick up a few more things in Miami and Georgia?
I don't worry about it, you know, it's like statistically, it's amazing. When you win the presidency, even if you win by a landslide like we did, and even if you do a good job, and some people say we've done the best opening 10 months in history, you know, in the history of the presidency. I think we have. Who who's done better? We ended eight wars. We have the strongest economy, we have $18 trillion coming in, which is more than any country had times, I think, five or six. $18 trillion is a lot even in your standard, right? Even for that guy, $18 trillion's big numbers. We have $18 trillion coming in. Pretty amazing, right? I think Qualcomm would be very impressed if they had even a little piece of that. That's but uh so we've done a great job. But for whatever reason, and nobody has been able to give me an answer, when you win the presidency, you seem to lose the midterms, even if you win the presidency by a lot and you do a great job as president. You know, some presidents have done good and they've lost. I think it's like two times in the last many, many years, it's been won. I don't know why, it doesn't make sense. Usually, I can figure things out, but I don't know why, but that seems to be. But other than that, we should win because we're doing great. The economy is roaring. I think the economy's only going to go and, you know, better with all this money pouring in. We have factories being built. And forget about AI, we have AI more than anybody. We're leading AI by a lot. But we have many car companies coming in from Canada, from Mexico, they're close up they're coming in from Mexico, they're coming in from Canada, from Japan, from Europe, all over Europe, Germany, all over Europe. Uh, I mean we're doing great. But for whatever reason, it doesn't matter how well they're doing, you know, good and bad. The bad you understand. But when even when a president is doing well, they seem to not do well in the midterms. So we're going to try and change it. There should be no reason for it. If anybody at the table can figure out, Bruce, some nice psychological reason. But uh so I want to win and winning the midterms is important. People want us to win the midterms, and I think you know we have we have great spirit. We should win the midterms, yeah.
Mr. President! Under Joe Biden's administration, um during COVID specifically, uh Biden removed the safety standards on abortion drugs. Now I'm hearing from a lot of pro-lifers that they're very anxious because yesterday Bloomberg reported that your FDA is slow-walking a review of the abortion drugs that uh Secretary Kennedy promised. How soon do you want to see that?
Yeah, I don't know. How I'll find out, I'll ask them. Do you want to see it speed up? I don't think they're slow-walking anything, but I'll find out. The other...
Mr. President, any update on the the clashes between Thailand and Cambodia, sir?
Yeah, I think I'll have to make a phone call. I was going to say that the Thailand and Cambodia, one of the eight that I settled, they've been fighting for a long time. They've been fighting for a very long time, many, many, many decades. But I got along great with both. I found they were two great leaders, two great people, and I settled it once. I think I can do it pretty quickly. I think we we're scheduling a phone call tomorrow.
With Thailand?
With Thailand. With Thailand, if you you know, just to answer Steve, with Thailand and Cambodia, I think I think I can get them to stop fighting. Who else can do that? Think of it. Settled eight wars. Every once in a while, one will flame up again, and I have to put out that little flame, have to put it out, but we're going to put it out again. So I think I'm scheduled to speak to them tomorrow and see if I can. It was it was unfortunate what happened. I mean I know exactly what happened, it got it started a little bit, but uh we'll see if we can put it out.
We're interested in the seizure of this tanker. What happens to the oil on that ship?
Well, we keep it, I guess, huh? Where does it go? What port does it go to? Well, you have to follow the tanker. You know, you're a good newsman, just follow the tanker. Do you know where it's going? Follow follow it, get a helicopter and follow the tanker. But we're going to I assume we're going to keep the oil.
Mr. President, on Fed Chair, Kevin Warsh says you would away announce your decision within the next two weeks. Is that correct?
I don't know. Maybe. Are you doing your interviews with finalists today? Well, I'm meeting with Kevin Warsh today, so I'm meeting with him and I sort of have a very good idea what I'm looking for. Again, I'm looking for somebody that will be honest with interest rates. That's all. I just want honesty. Our rate should be much lower. Our rate should be the lowest rates in the world because all these countries that you see, you know, with low rates, many of them are low because of us, because they suck so much money out of us. But that's not happening anymore. We should have the lowest rates in the world. And without us, none of them really exist as an economy. I mean I can show you these really prime, really wonderful countries, they've had nothing but success. It's because they they took so much out of the United States. I mean it's one of those little problems. Uh, I want to see that when we do well we're rewarded for doing well, not the way it's been for the last pretty long period of time.
Are you asking for finalists to pledge to lower rates? Are you asking these finalists to pledge to lower rates if they become the chair?
No, no. I'll be asking questions and I'll be able to figure it out.
Mr. President, you have three countries sending drugs to the US: Mexico, Venezuela, and Colombia. And you talk to the President of Mexico, you already talked to Nicolas Maduro. Have you considered talking to the President of Colombia, whom you called a drug leader?
No, I haven't really thought too much about him. He's been fairly hostile to the United States and I haven't given him a lot of thought. Uh, he is uh he's going to have himself some big problems if he doesn't wise up. Colombia's producing a lot of drugs, a lot of they have cocaine factories that they make cocaine as you know and they sell it right into the United States, so he better wise up or he'll be next. He'll be next too. And I hope he's listening. He's going to be next too. Because we don't like people when they kill people and they sell drugs, they kill them in the United States. And Colombia is a major manufacturer of drugs, meaning cocaine in particular, as you know.
Um, thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. Multiple House Republicans in recent weeks, days have been critical of Speaker Mike Johnson. I wanted to ask if you're still confident in the Speaker to keep his conference together ahead of the midterms and how often are you speaking with him?
I think Mike Johnson is great. You know, he's had a majority of two, three, four, then back to two. We actually had one. So we were one heart attack away from disaster. So everybody prayed for everybody's health. I think Mike Johnson's been a fantastic Speaker. I mean a very hard job because, you know, when you have a small majority and we got the biggest bill in the history of our country approved. The Great Big Beautiful Bill. I call it the Great Big Beautiful Bill. There are different names for it, but to me it's the Great Big Beautiful Bill because it gives the biggest tax cuts in history, the biggest regulation cuts in history, no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime. I think Mike Johnson's been a great Speaker. I think few people could have done that job.
Do you want to see another big package move through Capitol Hill in the next year or...
Well, we don't need it because we got everything, you know, this was supposed to be 17 bills. And I think it was my idea, but you know, with the concurrence of people that have done this a long time. I said why don't we make it in one bill because it's very hard to get things approved by the Democrats. And it worked out because there was something good for everybody. If we would have done 17 bills, we wouldn't have gotten a third of them approved. It was something great for everybody in the one, you know, the Great Big Beautiful Bill. Right?
Just to follow up, it's good to see you, Mr. President. To follow up on the event last night in Pennsylvania. Huge crowd turned out there. Yeah, big crowd. It seemed like Rally Trump was in prime condition last night, you enjoyed it. Can you just give me your thoughts on that and then I do have a question on the Gold Card.
Last night was amazing in Pennsylvania. We had a tremendous crowd. It was like freezing and the people the thousands of people on the sidewalk trying to get in or the streets. Uh, it was an amazing uh evening, actually, and I think people really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it, you could tell that. I can tell that you enjoyed it. I enjoyed it, I really. Well, you know, it's easy to enjoy when you do a good job and, you know, when you can talk about things in a very positive way. It's hard not to say. We have potentially the greatest economic boom in the history of the world. It's being built right now. And when it opens, there will be nothing ever in history like what's happening in our country. And, you know, Washington DC is safe and Memphis is now look at Memphis crime is down 60% in Memphis. We just got there three weeks ago. And uh we're going to have uh New Orleans, New Orleans was we just sent a group of people there and crime is down 28 28% in about three days. [59:31] No, we do a good job. You know, and these are central casting people. These people are they're very tough people if they have to be. They're very good, they're great patriots, but they are the toughest and uh they don't take any nonsense. And every place we go, we we knock down crime. Too bad that we're not invited more into Chicago because we could save Chicago very quickly. Uh but even that, we're doing it on a minimal basis until, you know, at some point we'll just go in and do what we have to do if the Governor doesn't wise up. They got a bad Governor, they have a bad Mayor. I would say they're both incompetent, but it's hard to believe that people don't want to stop crime. We could stop the crime in Chicago in about two weeks. Go ahead.
My question is on the on the Gold Card. Is it and I apologize if I missed the answer to this, is there a limit to how many gold cards these companies can buy?
So, the the program is part of the already approved visas. So we're just going to have great people come into this country. You know, the average green card holder earned less than the average American. So they were more likely to be on the dole and be on our assistance programs than average Americans. And the idea is from President Trump he wants to raise it, bring in the best people into America. So same visas, but now just full of the best people.
Basically, it's a green card, but much better. Much more powerful. A much stronger path. And a path is a big deal. Have to be great people, but much stronger path. And it also in addition to that helps companies because not only for companies, but uh if IBM uh gets somebody number one in his class at the Wharton School of Finance and you're dying to get the person, but you can't guarantee the person stays in the country because often times they'll say I'm sorry, sir, you gotta get out of here, you have 24 hours, right? And you say where's my employee? Uh now IBM can buy a card and that employee can be there for essentially a very long period of time. [61:48] It was it's so needed for the companies. You know, it's needed for others too, but really it's basically a much better form of a green card and you can't get green cards. They are impossible to get. This is much better than a green card. Yeah.
Yes, sir. Did you tell Bruce Blakeman not to run for Governor or that she should think about not running for Governor?
I haven't spoken to First of all, he's a friend, she's a friend. These are two great people running. In a way, I hate to see them running against each other. I hope they're not going to be damaging each other. But Elise is fantastic and Bruce is they're two fantastic people. And uh I always hate it when two very good friends of mine are running, and I hope there's not a lot of damage done. Sometimes it works the other way. The victor ends up being much stronger because of it. A lot of times that happens in politics. Do you think that over the next couple of months, we'll actually see who who performs well Well, I think in New York we have a convention toward the end of February, and I think you'll know pretty much at the end of February what's going to happen, and I'll probably have to, you know, do what I want to do. But I hope he's running, as you know, and she's running. We have two very talented people. Either one should win against the Democrats.